* How do we use ancient feminine wisdom to transform our world?
* How do ancient goddess traditions support us to reclaim our power and sovereignty?
* How do we access this ancient wisdom and apply it to the modern-day world?
This week’s episode of the Soul Sovereignty & Sexuality Podcast dives into Why Ancient Feminine Wisdom is Key to Reclaiming your Sovereignty.
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I’m joined in this episode by Dr. Carla Ionescu, who is a historian, author, and leading expert on the Greek Goddess Artemis and ancient religions.
We dive into the practicalities of what incorporating ancient feminine wisdom into our lives really means: on a mental, emotional, and spiritual level.
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About your Host Jessica Falcon:
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Episode 45: Why Ancient Feminine Power is Key to Reclaiming your Sovereignty Transcript:
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Welcome to another episode of the Soul Sovereignty and Sexuality podcast with myself,
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Jessica Falcon,
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and I have a special guest today,
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Carla Ionescu,
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and we’re going to talk about how ancient wisdom,
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particularly the ancient goddess traditions,
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support us in the modern day world,
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support us to transform,
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support what we’re going through and what we’re experiencing internationally,
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how we can
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Use this ancient wisdom to benefit us,
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to remember our power,
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to reclaim our sovereignty,
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to be in our truth,
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and also to tap into what the goddess offers and why it’s relevant.
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Because we…
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We have been so deeply disconnected from the power of the goddess,
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from the power of the feminine.
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And so we’ll dive into what the goddess really means, right, to each of us.
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We’ll dive into that level of feminine power.
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And I want us to start with a conversation,
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Carla,
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about why this matters and how we can access this ancient wisdom from your
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perspective as a historian,
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as a researcher,
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as an expert on Artemis.
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How would you describe that?
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So thank you for having me, first of all.
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I’m really glad to be here and actually have this conversation.
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I think your inspiration is so timely.
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It’s something that I’ve been thinking about for a while.
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People often ask me,
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you know,
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like,
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how do you,
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why is this useful and how is it applicable and all that kind of stuff?
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But I’m finding that lately, especially with the most recent research, as there are sort of
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digging up or analyzing ancient graves, ancient bones.
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They just found this knife up in somewhere in Northern Europe.
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I can’t remember right now.
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Oh, it’s one of the Slavic countries.
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Anyways, and other materials coming to light that is showing the…
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I want to say the sort of egalitarian relationship between men and women,
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but also the authority of women in religious perspective,
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in hunting experience,
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in ritual performance.
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So what I’m saying is that we are seeing more and more revelations of women really
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ruling the world.
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So there’s a part of me that is starting to suspect that
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that we have been sold this bill of lies for a long time about hunter-gatherers,
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about long patriarchy,
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about the evolution of power and authority and all this kind of stuff.
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One of the things that’s coming up for me a lot is that
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actually women were in charge and i say this in quotation marks of the world again
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in quotation marks much longer than we had thought they had much more authority
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than we have been taught they had much more presence than we have been thought and
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we’re seeing that come to light and i think a lot of people’s reactions is always
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like ah you know here we are replacing patriarchy with matriarchy but it’s not the
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same thing right so
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When women are in authority, it’s a very different society.
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It’s a very different context.
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It’s a very different way of sharing resources, of thinking about power, et cetera.
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So I think we are starting to tune in towards that more and more.
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And I think once that starts to become a reality,
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we will have to ask ourselves,
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what was it like in a world that
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where women had,
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let’s say,
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social and political authority and men were not sort of oppressed or submissive or
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there wasn’t any of that in the community.
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So that’s exciting.
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And I think this goddess work that we’re all doing and that some people have been doing,
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you know,
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for decades and decades,
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may be coming to sort of a crescendo
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with the archaeological,
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scientific and other discoveries that are confirming all of these things that many
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women have said for many,
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you know,
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many decades.
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So I would say it’s the utmost importance.
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Goddess work, history work on the goddess, women’s history.
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I would say that we are at the at the peak of change.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And for me,
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it really is,
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as you said,
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we’re told,
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right,
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that men have always been in power or the patriarchy has always been here.
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I don’t really like to use the word patriarchy because it’s so misunderstood.
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It is.
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And often used,
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right,
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as kind of a weapon or gross labeling of something rather than a real understanding
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that men are not necessarily the patriarchy and the patriarchy is more of a system
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that’s been put in place and all of that,
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right?
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Yes.
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I also think that as we uncover these ancient goddess temples,
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as we go and receive their wisdom,
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as we research and understand what ancient civilizations lived like when women were
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in power,
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when the goddess was revered,
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for me,
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the biggest takeaway has been it wasn’t always this way.
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It’s not what we’ve been told.
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We have been very intentionally kept from this ancient wisdom because it serves us
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to remember our power and our truth and our sovereignty.
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And as I started to research the goddess and religious history and ancient
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civilizations and mythology,
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I came into my own remembrance of God.
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okay,
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so if it hasn’t always been this way and the goddess was the most revered deity in
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some of these ancient civilizations and which we were in communion with the earth
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and the elements and which the body was considered sacred and which sex was not a sin,
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right?
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All of these huge concepts where there wasn’t a submissive,
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it was a equal partnership between men and women in different ways and different cultures.
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I’m not saying everyone, right?
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But that
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Oh, okay.
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So that means everything we’ve been kind of blindly abiding by for the past few
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thousand years are just beliefs.
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They’re just beliefs, right?
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And they’re beliefs that we have been beholden to because we haven’t known otherwise.
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And we think this is the way it is.
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And that’s what we’ve been told because if we think it’s always been this way,
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we think there is no other way.
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And that’s how today in modern society, we can go,
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Oh, if it hasn’t been this way and they’re just beliefs, there is another way.
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And maybe that way is the way I just haven’t discovered yet.
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Right.
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And maybe that way is accessible to me.
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And maybe we get this ancient wisdom from these cultures that lived in more harmony
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with the natural world and each other.
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And we use that today to create a better world rather than being enslaved to this
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idea of power over dynamics.
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Right.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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I think that’s the key to ancient wisdom.
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And,
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you know,
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interestingly,
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I’m not sure that the ancients had any intention of us sort of,
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you know,
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what I mean is that I don’t think that they intended to provide us with
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instructions in the way that we need today.
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So,
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for example,
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what I’m saying is,
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for example,
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sometimes some of my students will say to me,
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well,
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how come women didn’t write anything while they were inside these temples or
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priestesses or whatever?
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And I ask myself that question as well, because
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There have been lots of temples uncovered.
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And as far as we know,
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so without falling into conspiracy theories,
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because those are obviously uncrovable,
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there aren’t any documents within the temples or within certain sites of women
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writing the rituals or the performances or things like that.
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And in my conversation with some of my students at the center, at the Artemis Center, we…
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we’ve sort of had this,
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maybe a kind of revelation or a kind of inspiration of what if women,
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and we’re talking about women now,
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but it could have been everyone.
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What if people who perform these rituals took it for granted that this is something
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that everyone would know forever because they had a system of passing down information.
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They had a system of initiations.
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They had a system of performance that was very…
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commonly known okay for women’s rituals for example that were closed within the
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temple doors still all of the women within that community knew the rituals knew the
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songs knew this knew the symbolism knew all of that so i remember one of my
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students saying what if they just thought that by leaving us these symbols or by
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just passing down these small things of course we would understand what that means
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In the sense that perhaps no one saw this,
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this chasmic break between the ancient world and then the monotheistic world that
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came next.
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And then the, you know, the dark ages and then the technological world and where we are now.
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And so ancient wisdom really is us looking back,
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trying to decode from what we found,
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what their,
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what their practices were that they took for granted and,
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And then understanding how commonplace that was for them.
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Where for us, we have to wrap our minds around it.
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Does that make sense?
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When I think about how many goddess temples there were, how many…
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celebrations and festivals that women and men but women went to on their own where
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they celebrate their bodies where they celebrated the rhythms and nature like they
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had the psychology of that that they took for granted
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For us, it’s something we have to try to wrap our minds around, right?
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What’s it like to be a little girl and just go to initiation rituals all the time?
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Because that’s what you do.
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And then you go to these festivals where women are in charge of,
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you know,
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I don’t know,
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the fertility of agriculture,
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like the Ellicinian Mysteries or the afterlife or whatever.
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Even if we call this,
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let’s say,
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if we’re talking about the Greeks here as a patriarchal state,
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okay,
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I say that again in quotations.
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The women had much more celebrations in space under that so-called patriarchal
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state than we do today.
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So the psychology of that, I try to think, I try to put myself in that frame of mind.
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What’s it like to grow up like that?
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What’s it like to hang out with women like that from a young age across the experiences of life?
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So I think the ancient wisdom…
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is really just,
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it’s really us getting back to what is the norm,
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you know,
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is us getting back to this idea that it is very normal to have these activities in
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our lives,
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to worship the feminine divine,
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to practice that worship,
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to gather,
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right?
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I mean, that was very, you know, quote unquote, normal for the ancients and for us.
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It’s a real…
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in order to go to a women’s event or things like that,
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first of all,
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we have to overcome a lot of prejudice and bias and et cetera to start making
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circles and having circles.
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And then still, it takes a lot to create a gathering.
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It takes a lot, right?
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So what used to be taken for granted as standard now is exceptional or maybe not
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exceptional anymore,
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I hope,
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but special,
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right?
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So we’re getting there, but it’s a lot of like,
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Yeah, it’s almost like we have an old box of wisdom that we haven’t looked into.
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And here we are now opening and going,
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oh,
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my goodness,
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look at all these great things that are in here that we can then apply to our daily lives.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And they were so much more connected to life.
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And part of that is because they weren’t living behind computer screens all the
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time and working nine to five jobs and living in a community because they had to
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live in community and.
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I mean,
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a lot of ancient civilizations,
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my understanding is particularly in Sumer and ancient Egypt were very advanced and
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they had very advanced education system,
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math systems,
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time systems,
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water,
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you know,
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aqueducts,
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even in ancient Rome and Pompeii,
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like the water systems are still like astounding for us today,
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right?
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We don’t even know how to build the temples they build or the pyramids they build.
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And so they were
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way more advanced than we’re led to believe.
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I think we have kind of fallen in consciousness.
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And for me, that fall in consciousness came when
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We stopped revering the earth.
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We stopped revering the goddess.
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And that fall of consciousness, I traced back to that exact same time in history.
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And the fall of consciousness is really this idea that there’s only a male god, right?
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And they took away the feminine counterpart,
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which denied the divinity of the feminine,
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which included women.
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But what it was also denying was
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life as sacred the body as sacred the self as sacred it was only out and above that
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we could find that quote connection with the divine now my understanding is that
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took a few thousand years to really stamp out through a lot of violence and warfare
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um
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But there was always this resistance, right?
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And that resistance still lives in many of us.
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You know,
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I know it lives in us,
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the two of us and many other people who say,
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yeah,
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and I know something different and I’m here to help people see something different
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and tap into that power that is there,
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even though we’ve been told,
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right?
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We can’t or we shouldn’t or we’re not allowed, right?
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Even many other myths tell us that.
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And at the same time,
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Just that simple reverence for life can make a drastic,
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drastic,
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drastic difference in how we show up.
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Like that reverence for life.
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Like,
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yes,
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both of us probably guide people into very deep and profound practices and beliefs
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and systems and reflection.
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And also just listening to a bird and watching the water and
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These taking in the breath and knowing you can’t be separate from the air around you.
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You can’t be separate from the waters.
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You breathe them in.
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You take them in.
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You can’t be separate from the earth.
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And just that, right?
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That way our lives would change.
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I know that for certain,
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you know,
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before as a soul embodiment guide and doing what I do now,
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I was a prosecutor.
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I was an attorney.
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I had a very different life in which I was living from the head up.
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And it’s this ancient wisdom of the feminine, which is of life, of the body, of the sacred.
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Yes.
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It
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drastically changed my experience of how I live life right I mean how could it not
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yes yes and you know that’s a tough that’s a challenge because you know in in the
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ancient world everyone was living in in in connection to nature there was no other
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option and for us today it’s almost like
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we wait for people to arrive or we wait for people to show up, right?
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It’s the same for me.
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I spent so much time in my mind.
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I continue to do that because that’s the programming, right?
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As a researcher, as an academic, that’s the programming.
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And I have to say that I enjoy that to some degree.
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but remembering to not always be cerebral and blah, blah, blah.
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But that is still a blessing and a privilege for me, right?
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Because many others don’t have the, I don’t know what it is.
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It’s not always want or need, but it’s that sort of, or call.
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You know, they have other things that they’re bombarded with in their lives.
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And so what I’m saying is that
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The job now is a little bit harder for connection,
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significantly harder for connection,
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actually,
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versus coming from a totally,
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let’s say,
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agricultural or even hunter-gatherer society,
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where you are constantly,
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though,
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in nature.
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So even if you are straying here or you’re moving towards,
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I don’t know,
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living in a city back then,
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you still were always in…
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So it is easier…
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to tap into the magic of that time, to tap into that magic at that time, into nature.
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It was easier to have a conversation about,
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like you said,
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water,
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air,
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earth,
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trees,
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because that was a given.
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People around you would have been like, yes, of course.
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So I think our challenge is even just exposing nature.
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population to the reality of that knowledge people know that they know that when
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you go for a walk in nature and i was talking to my mother today you know say maybe
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go go for a walk well they know that going for a walk outside is good for them but
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number one not everyone feels like it because everyone’s overwhelmed with all kinds
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of stuff number two not everyone has time blah blah so it’s like how do we
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How can we recreate a world as clearly connected as the ancient world in a world
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today where we are so deeply disconnected?
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And some people are coming back to that wisdom, but it’s taking some time, right?
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So we won’t be able to have or replicate what was before.
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We’re going to have to come up with something that works for the realities of this time.
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In the now.
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In the now.
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And that has never been done before.
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So, right?
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So here we are a little bit like walking in the dark because we’re trial and error,
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lots of trial and error.
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Yes,
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we have a lot of that ancient knowledge and we’re gaining more of it,
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but then figuring out what works when you apply it,
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that becomes also a bit of a trial and error.
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So, I mean, it’s kind of exciting times.
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Like people say, we’re living in historical times.
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But there are some challenges that the ancients didn’t have.
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Right.
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So they weren’t fighting against something or they weren’t fighting to push up against,
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you know,
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in the same way that we are.
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They were living their lives, you know.
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I mean, they had their own problems.
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They had lots of wars.
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They had some disease.
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They had, I don’t know, famines.
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They had their own problems.
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We’re not saying it was a utopia or it was a time of non-suffering.
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Of course, people died.
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People were lost to all kinds of accidents, things like that.
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So they had their own issues.
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But because they were naturally or daily connected to a lot of these wisdoms and energies…
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yeah they lived a significantly different psychology than and we can at this point
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i don’t i mean because we’re not all going to go back to nature uh you know people
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are not going to give up their cars and luxury items and so trying to figure out
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how to reconnect with
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in this day and age is probably our, our modern challenge, I guess.
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And it doesn’t have to be separate though.
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Right.
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At least in my experience, it doesn’t have to be separate.
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I have lost everything I owned several times in my life, be it through a flood or other things.
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And yeah,
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it it’s not that those things are bad it’s not that there’s anything wrong with
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having a house and having a shelter i feel grateful i have shelter in a comfortable
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bed and don’t have to sleep on hard ground or pebbles or rocks or right i’m warm
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when it’s raining and cold outside and sheltered from the wind and right there’s
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i’m so grateful that i don’t have to go hunt for my food every time i want to eat
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and true and and and
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It is our relationship with those things that determines our reality,
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particularly our inner reality,
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our inner state.
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It is that gratitude for the fact that we get to eat.
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We get to eat from the earth and that it is still the earth.
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That provides all of that.
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It doesn’t come from a grocery store.
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Food doesn’t come from a grocery store.
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There are people who think food comes from a grocery store.
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When at some point in my life,
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I remember thinking when I first volunteered on an organic farm in France,
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when I went on a spiritual pilgrimage back in 2013,
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I was already in my thirties.
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I remember still having this moment going, I’ve never pulled food out of the ground.
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Like, is it safe to eat like that?
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Right?
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And that’s so kind of…
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laughable and scary and sad and the reality of many of us who have only ever eaten
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from a grocery store and so there’s this we can still enjoy that benefit of that
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say for example right and have the consciousness and the awareness that it is the
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earth and the rain and the sun and the air that give us the capacity to eat food to
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live life
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And connect with the organic elements of life with appreciation and connection
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rather than the complete separation that we have been,
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I would say,
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brainwashed to not know any different,
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to not have the connection with the consciousness that exists within all things.
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And to me, that’s the separation that is wounding us because how many people do you know
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that are fully activated,
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life force energy,
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joyful,
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grateful,
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appreciative,
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like in connection with all things and the divine within themselves and all of life
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and live that way and vibrate that and radiate that.
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That is to me like the essence of why we’re actually here.
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But when we’re operating according to this
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I sometimes call it like a slave paradigm, right?
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You work hard, you work hard, you work hard.
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Where’s life?
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Where’s life?
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Where’s life?
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Like, oh, but you have to, you have to.
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The survival grid that has been on our planet for a very long time,
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which is what we’re coming up face-to-face with right now.
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We are literally being asked,
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and this might sound a little far-fetched,
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but for me and my experience working with Gaia,
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working with the goddess,
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is that we are being asked
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To move our root system, our nervous system from this survival grid.
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I have to do this for money.
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I have to do this to survive.
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I have to do this to be safe.
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Whether it be a job, whether it be I need love, I need value, right?
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To re-gridding and reconnecting the root to our divine consciousness.
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Mm-hmm.
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which to me is sovereignty, right?
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Soul embodiment is sovereignty.
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When we embody our divinity to regrid our root, our energetic system to this, I am, I am divine.
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And we operate as that everything shifts.
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Now that’s quite a shift, right?
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Yes.
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But it’s possible.
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And I do believe that’s why things seem so
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let’s just say crazy and intense right now and activating in not so pleasant ways.
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And there’s a lot of fear because that fear has been the very thing that has
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controlled us and led to the suppression of the goddess.
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That same exact fear led to the suppression of the goddess.
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So if we have the opportunity to then transmute that now for the past and go,
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I let that fear,
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each one of us at some point agreed on a conscious or unconscious level,
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I let that fear keep me separate from my divinity,
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from the divine within all life,
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from the goddess.
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That’s what she represents, the divine in life, right?
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I let that fear keep me separate.
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And I get to choose differently now,
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despite all of this fear,
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despite all of this,
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you have to in the survival and the blah,
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blah,
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blah,
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blah,
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blah.
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You can’t choose.
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You don’t have rights.
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Yes, you do.
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Yes, we do.
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And shift out of the fear into that sovereignty,
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into that empowerment,
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into that force of the goddess.
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that can shift and create new realities.
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Like I have experienced her working her magic into physicality because the
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spiritual comes first.
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Energy forms matter, not the other way around.
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And so we can use this wisdom to shift our physical reality and it doesn’t have to
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take another couple thousand years,
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but it does take our consciousness and our choice.
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Yeah.
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That has a lot of
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depth what you’re saying i mean obviously but um i’m just thinking sorry now i’m
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just thinking about the way you’re saying it in many ways we have come
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significantly farther than the ancients in the sense that i am not sure and again
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we i mean here we are generalizing for all the ancients okay but we’re just having
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a conversation but i am not sure that ancient people’s
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thought about programming grids like we talk about even sovereignty of body and
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soul the way that we’re thinking about now so what I’m saying is I think we have
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evolved despite the oppression and suppression we have evolved and perhaps the
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ancient wisdom is
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the tool that we kind of reach back for to help push through this.
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So I don’t know if that makes sense.
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Not that we are trying to relive like they did in many ways,
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because like we said,
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we can’t,
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but also maybe we don’t need to.
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We create something new.
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Right, because we’ve lived through that, right?
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So we’ve lived through that.
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We’re here now.
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Our understanding, so for example, the technology, the information, all of these things,
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are still tools that we can use in order to free ourselves.
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And the ancient wisdom,
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I think,
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is part of that memory of what was the norm for us,
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what we experienced,
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and how do we tap into that and process it and use it today.
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So I think what you’re saying is quite fascinating in the sense that we are a whole new,
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I don’t know if it’s new,
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but a whole different world
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energy today that is made up of both the freedom and connections and mysteries of
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the ancient world and then the trauma of the last two thousand years or five
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thousand years and then here we are awaking like people say you know which is sort
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of like we’ve been dormant for a while do you know what i mean but now you awaken
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you
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in a different reality.
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And therefore you must, you know, figure out your way through.
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So that it’s quite fascinating.
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Cause I think, I think you’re right.
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I think that we can’t go back.
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Obviously we can’t live like they used to.
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We know too much, right?
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It’s like, you can’t unknow what, you know, we know too much.
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We’ve seen too much.
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We experienced too much.
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And yet we don’t know enough about some of these ancient, right?
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So we are in this new world.
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place of evolution, right?
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With both good and bad.
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And trying to figure that out, I think, is where the ancient wisdom plays a key role.
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as a tool to what could have,
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like the expansion of consciousness,
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the expansion of worship,
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right?
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Because they were so much more expanded back then in those fields of wisdom,
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which were then closed to us for 2000 years.
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So now we’re kind of,
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again,
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opening up,
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even though it looks like chaos,
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but we’re opening up again to a kind of expansion,
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right?
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So it’s quite fascinating because I guess in many ways, it’s unknowable.
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We don’t know what the future will look like.
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You know,
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we’re living in a time that obviously has never been before,
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but also,
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you know,
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in history,
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there’s patterns of behavior,
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there’s patterns of empires,
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there’s patterns of power,
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blah,
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blah,
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blah.
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And now we’re living in a time where there’s a potential that we break some of those patterns.
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And that is new in many ways.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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I love the way you’re,
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you’re kind of putting that into that deeper perspective of highlighting we can’t
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go back.
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And we are creating something new and a very new way and something I’ve been
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playing with and I would love to know.
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Maybe you found research I have and I maybe have a different perspective about this,
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because something I’ve been playing with is that now the ancients,
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they had access to a lot of spiritual technologies that we don’t write sound and
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they directed their temples to many of the stars and they use the solstice and these.
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these other powerful times on the planet to,
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we don’t know what exactly,
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but we know that that’s what the temples were orchestrated for or attuned to.
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And we know that they built things we still don’t know how to build.
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And like the megalithic stone structures in Malta,
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for example,
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I know that you went there as well.
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And like they have these 15,000 tons stones just stacked on top, stacked on top, stacked on top.
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It’s just incredible.
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From five, 7,000, 9,000 years ago,
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how in the world how in the world right and that somehow survived for five seven
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nine thousand years and which most of our things just fall away in like one big
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storm right so it’s it’s fascinating and at the same time it also seems like they
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were still in many ways seeing the divine outside themselves they were still in
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many ways like
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Oh,
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these star beings,
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which maybe are what they call the gods and goddesses,
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other star beings,
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who knows,
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right?
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That makes a lot of sense to me.
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And using that and accessing these technologies.
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And now…
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And then we went to that one monotheistic God.
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This is the one God.
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And he’s a man and looks like us.
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We basically made God in man’s image, right?
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Not the other way around.
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And so we had to obey and we had to submit or else we die and we’re punished and
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we’re eternally in hell.
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And this is crazy.
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It’s so seemingly archaic concepts, right?
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into but somehow very effective for thousands of years into okay so we can still
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access this ancient spiritual technology and the stars and work with the land and
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life and the element and recognize maybe there is one source just not one man in
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the sky and
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Bring that and recognize that in ourselves to embody our divinity.
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And for me, I know that that’s the impulse within me, right?
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In the work I do or just in myself, right?
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Like we walk the path of ourselves and to embody my divinity,
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to operate as the divine I am,
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to…
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Not let it be just a concept.
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Not let it just be an idea.
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Not let it be something I just think about,
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but bring into how I live,
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how I talk,
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how I show up,
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how I relate to my body,
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my sexuality,
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my everything,
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the food,
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everything.
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And then align everything to that, which is new on this planet, my understanding.
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What do you think about?
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Have you seen other civilizations really felt like they were embodying the divine?
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Um, that’s a good question.
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Um, I love this idea of spiritual technology.
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So I do, I agree with you.
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Uh,
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and I think this is just,
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it’s very well evidenced that they used the vibrations,
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the energies,
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um,
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in a,
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as a technology,
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which is quite fascinating.
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Uh, I remember hearing about a cave in Turkey to Kaibeli where, um,
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depending on where you stood in the cave and where you,
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and what kind of drum you were drumming,
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the vibrations of that sound could elicit anything from joy to crying to
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devastation to awe.
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So,
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and I remember reading the report from the archaeologists and thinking,
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I mean,
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I mean,
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I can’t even wrap my mind around that.
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Like, how did they figure that out?
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And then how did they test it?
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You know, and my brain is asking all these questions.
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So,
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So they very much had those tools to experience,
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let’s say,
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the natural energy and vibrations of the earth.
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I agree with you also that they did tend to look up or down for the divine.
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I can only speak for the Greek and Romans, maybe a little bit of the Egyptians.
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So we’re kind of at Anatolia.
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We’re kind of caught in this little geographical space.
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I can’t speak for Asia or the continent of Africa, per se.
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But for those that I can speak for,
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yes,
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this idea that,
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I was thinking,
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the idea that I am divine
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it was probably not as popular as the idea of worshiping a divine,
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creating a relationship with the divine.
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Though I will say that their relationships with the divine were much more
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egalitarian than the later monotheistic relationships.
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And by that, I mean, there seemed to be a negotiation with the divine.
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You could offer something and expect something in return.
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You could decide to partner up with this God,
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Or this God might like you better than another God.
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So it was not an equal relationship.
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I’ll use the word egalitarian relationship.
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I don’t think they saw themselves as equals,
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but they certainly saw that they had room to collaborate.
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And then we get into monotheism and suddenly you’re an oppressed slave to the
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system and all this kind of stuff.
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so today it’s true that we are shedding we have to shed a lot of that shame and
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guilt especially if you grow up like i grew up catholic so the first time that i
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realized that artemis is sort of it’s my collaborator is my bestie is my mentor um
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it took me a really long time to say it out loud or to admit it to myself because
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it felt disrespectful,
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dishonorable in some way,
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like this divine being,
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what if she gets mad and like curses you?
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Because how dare you think that you are on this?
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Even though I grew up thinking the spark of the divine is in me,
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it was always submissive,
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right?
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It was always less than the creator, the God, the male representative.
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So I think that, um,
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Coming to sovereignty in that way where I see myself,
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it’s even hard to say,
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where I see myself as equal to a God entity because I am also God entity.
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Well, that’s so hard, right?
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The programming for that, the heaviness of
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to imagine that,
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like to try and break free from that and imagine that takes a kind of discipline
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and repetition and training,
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right?
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To forget that.
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And I think that is new in many ways.
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I can’t say that that in that way that we’re talking about it right now was part of
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ancient thought.
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I don’t know, because again, we only have a limited amount of writings.
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And the writings that we have are a bunch of dudes that were quite wealthy and
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quite privileged and,
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you know,
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blah,
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blah.
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So if we looked at them today,
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like if they were part of our population today,
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we would call them sort of these elite,
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you know,
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bro bro guys right kind of thing so we only have their writings and they were
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pleasing the politicians they were pleasing the emperor etc so i don’t want to
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totally say that the ancients didn’t experience that because if they did we they
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didn’t either they didn’t write it or we don’t have those writings so we’re going
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to leave them some room that maybe some of them were able to have that realization
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and work with that energy but i think for today for us
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I think that’s the reality.
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That’s why I think we’re more evolved because we are now stepping into our divinity
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as divine beings as much as we can,
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breaking old patterns.
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And I do think, I think you’re right.
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I think that is the purpose of this life.
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Well, I think that’s the, I think that’s almost like if this life was a course on earth,
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then sort of the final exam or the passing grade would be that you realize that
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that’s the realization that you embody that divinity.
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and so then you ascend kind of thing it’s like that last step before you you’re
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like okay great i finished earth got my degree in earth you know that kind of thing
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yeah it definitely is or seemingly a path of ascension for sure that that
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realization of the god state in form but not as a concept right because there are
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there’s a lot of spirituality where it’s been a concept for a long time
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be God realized,
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like recognize the divine within you,
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but to actually then bring that into the body is the feminine,
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is the feminine.
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And for me, it was the ancient Egyptian goddess, Auset, Isis known as Isis, Auset, who, who,
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You know,
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when she first came to me and embodied vision,
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I really didn’t know much about who she was.
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And she’s kind of my bestie in that sense, like Artemis is yours, right?
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And she’s been guiding me ever since like 2012, basically.
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I mean, probably way before that, but consciously.
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And I really wanted to, in the same way that we’re, you know,
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conditioned even unconsciously to put god above us i really wanted to put her above
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me i really wanted to see her as more than me as better than me as more worthy than
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me as and and it just kept being this no no no do not put me above you right i i am
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one with you you are just as powerful you are just as divine and it took me a long
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time to
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it’s why i do what i do because like everything that i went through right to to
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release the beliefs and the shame and the guilt and all of those feelings of
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unworthiness to to really begin to source from within to be sovereign and and her
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emblem in her hieroglyph was the throne and she was known as the goddess of
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sovereignty right because the
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To be sovereign was to sit on one’s throne, the throne, I say, of your own divinity, right?
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That is how we reclaim our sovereignty.
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And it’s fascinating to me because she was,
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in some ways,
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maybe the one who ushered in the,
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quote,
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golden age that we sometimes hear about or I’ve heard about,
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like that there was this golden age in Egypt in which…
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They had bridged more of heaven and earth.
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I don’t think we’ve seen real evidence quotes of that,
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you know,
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typical archeological evidence,
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right?
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But some people have channeled that through or had memories of that.
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But I do think that she,
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as one representative of the goddess,
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that the earth herself is ushering that in,
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is asking us to bring up this ancient wisdom,
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not to repeat the past,
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not to go back,
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but to say,
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okay,
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that part of us that we had to deny for however many thousands of years,
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you said,
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you know,
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2,500,
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5,000,
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right?
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It’s within that range that this really took place that, okay, so
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What if we bring that up,
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but in a new way,
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with the consciousness of the divine and the consciousness of the earth and meld
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them into something new.
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Remember those sacred technologies that we have access to.
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but also like live life and not ignore this, right?
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Like it doesn’t have to be one or the other,
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but so no more polarity,
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this or that,
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like,
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you know,
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matriarchy or patriarchy,
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but rather this,
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ah,
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so if we are all divine,
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then we’re all divine.
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Like no one is left out of that equation, right?
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No one.
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And then how that shifts our life and our experience and how we show up.
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I mean, it’s a pretty drastic,
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change yeah yeah i think perhaps that’s part of the key of change um because i
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think that that kind of learning is sort of the threshold for moving forward the
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issue of course the issue is how people how everyone reacts and handles that like
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so how do we approach
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this type of evolution let’s say spiritual evolution or physical evolution too um
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without too much ego i mean you know people sometimes say okay let’s put aside ego
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i’m i’m ego or not whatever freud comes up with whatever but what i mean is that
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there are what i mean is like i don’t know that i’m against ego as far as identity
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and personality in the way that you know some uh traditions are but i am thinking
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that
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There is lots of room for if people start to call themselves divine without the
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true deep belief in and the practice that we could see the dangers in some of that.
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And I did want to address what you said about the ego,
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because most of the work of coming into the divinity is,
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of course,
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right,
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looking at the ego,
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which.
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you know,
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for me and to find the ego in a very simple way of the ego being the part of us
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that solely identifies with being purely physical and nothing more.
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Like I am only physical.
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I’m separate from the divine.
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And so that part of ourselves does not need to be cast out.
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That part of ourselves does not need to be ignored because that part of ourselves
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is going to rule the subconscious and how we show up in the world.
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If we don’t then infuse that with love,
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with the consciousness of the divine,
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and then align the ego,
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which is basically our subconscious,
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which is basically our mind and our thoughts and our beliefs we’ve inherited,
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align that with our divinity.
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And how do we avoid it being…
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You know,
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just like basically like a bunch of ego rulers thinking like I’m the only one and
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I’m divine,
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right?
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Like, because clearly there’s some evidence of that right now happening in the world.
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Like I’m the only one and I can assign to everybody else and nobody else has a
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choice because I have this.
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And that’s been around for 5,000 years of like, there are some that are good.
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There are some that are bad.
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There’s some that are worthy.
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There’s some that are unworthy.
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Now the original ancient cultures, we don’t have evidence I’ve seen of that, but that came in.
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Right.
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And why that’s a whole other question.
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Like why did that happen on this planet?
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Right.
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That was the fallen consciousness in my opinion.
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Right.
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And, and,
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the only way for me that I can see that we resolve that is through love.
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Because if you are aligned to the consciousness of love,
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which is different than a mental consciousness of spirituality,
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love doesn’t,
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can’t think that,
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like that’s,
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you’re in the vibration,
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the frequency of love,
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which is the goddess.
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I mean, the goddess has always been associated with love in many, many of the ancient cultures.
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Our understanding of love is also
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very misunderstood and that’s again there’s so many different pieces and facets of
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this right but but then i always have been left the question right of like yeah but
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there are still people who maybe that’s just not their path in this lifetime maybe
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that’s not what they’re choosing and they don’t want that and they don’t want to
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elevate their consciousness and that’s that has been i think one of the greatest
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difficulties for me and
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Even recently,
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I was reading the poems of Edahawanna,
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which was the first author,
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known author,
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who was a temple priestess of Inanna,
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an ancient Sumer.
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And they have discovered her writings,
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the original author,
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the most ancient writings of a woman,
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of a temple priestess.
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And she basically, you know, says those things of like, am I being punished?
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Like, you know, like, where are you?
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Because they were punishing her because she was a temple priestess and they were
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taking her out of the temple.
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And this is documented.
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That’s what they did to those who worshiped the goddess and those who were powerful,
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strong women is they forced us.
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I’ve had past life memories of this,
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but they forced us and they killed us and they turned us into slaves and prostitutes.
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And I’ve had
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many years of healing that wound and i still have this but what do we do about that
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what do we do about those in the world that still want to do that there’s still a
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lot of rape there’s still a lot of sexual assault all you have to do is turn on the
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news to see lust and objectification of the body and and and it does grieve me and
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i don’t know that there’s any way around that grief
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And I will not let their blindness become mine.
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And it is ultimately, this is where I’ve come with it.
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I’m not saying this is my final forever.
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I will not let their blindness,
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their lack of consciousness,
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their lack of love,
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their lack of recognition of my divinity.
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I will not let that
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take me away from it anymore because this consciousness is what i take with me
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forever and i will maintain that recognition ideally no matter what because really
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isn’t that the illusion
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Isn’t that kind of the polarity,
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the illusion,
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the fall of consciousness,
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the belief that I could be separate from that?
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So the belief that this other person could do something that could make me separate
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from that is actually the illusion itself.
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So the more I can maintain the awareness of the union,
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I am already that,
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and nothing takes that away,
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then for me,
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that’s the kind of golden ticket,
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at least of my consciousness.
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It doesn’t take away my humanity, and that can create pain.
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But it does take away the suffering.
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And that’s what the goddess Aoset taught is that suffering is the denial of our divinity.
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Right.
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But we can still feel pain because pain in a way is a facet of life that when we
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feel pain,
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we’re actually fully alive.
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Right.
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Right.
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No, that makes sense.
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Yeah, that’s really beautiful.
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Well, I just realized it’s already been one hour.
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Can you believe we’ve already talked for an hour?
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So I feel like we should start to wrap up and I want to talk about a retreat that
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I’m offering where people can access this wisdom.
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But first, I want you to talk about.
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A little bit more of what you do,
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if you want to direct people to your website,
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how they can find you,
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anything you feel like sharing.
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Yes, thank you.
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So if they want to find me anywhere online, I’m under Artemis Expert.
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That’s pretty much across all social media.
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And then the Artemis Research Center is
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artemiscenter.com both work um is the website and on there there’ll be there’s like
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the courses that i have and uh that i teach and then the books that i wrote on
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artemis and the map for the temples so everything will be there but so those are
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the two ways because then on those places there’s all kinds of other links that
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they can just click around and um and get to know sort of what i do
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And courses on Artemis and this history.
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And the goddess, yeah.
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We just finished a course that was really wonderful called Frozen Realms.
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So I have a teaching partner that I teach with and we were looking at winter goddesses.
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And sometimes different times of the year we teach different things.
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But sometimes I feel a bit inspired to talk about something.
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um and uh and we put something together based on that inspiration and then teach
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mostly actually i think it’s something exactly like what we’ve been talking about a
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part of it is a learning of the ancient data and the other part is the
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applicability of that knowledge so i like to set up the courses in that way where
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we meet live on zoom or whatever but then we have a part of it is a lecture but
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then the other part is really
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applying some of that knowledge because i think people are fascinated by mythology
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and ancient history and artifacts and that’s great to talk about and i love to talk
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about that stuff but then it’s like okay so what do we do with all of this and so
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that’s the applicability part of it then we run through exercises of you know how
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do you apply some of that knowledge and um so i really love to i mean i teach at
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the university here in toronto uh although those courses are more philosophy and
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um you know sort of standard rigid uh academia but but the other stuff that i teach
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under the artemis center is really just uh it’s just for the love of learning kind
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of thing you know and teaching the material yeah yeah yeah that’s beautiful and
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i’ll put all the links below so if you’re listening to this you can just go and
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scroll and look for the links and check out the artemis center and and all the
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courses and offerings that carla has and
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And yeah,
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I’ll just mention about a retreat that I’m leading to Greece where people can
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actually have the opportunity to access this wisdom in a really embodied way.
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Because for me,
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it’s like,
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yeah,
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we can go to the sites and we can just like have this intellectual understanding of
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it of like,
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oh,
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maybe there’s some energy,
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right?
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But what I really want to guide people to is to really understand like,
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what is the wisdom here,
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both on an intellectual level and guided tours and
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but also on this real embodied level.
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And for me,
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I have the pleasure and privilege and gift of being able to channel that energy up
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and help others channel the energy up into our bones,
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into our bodies so that it really works with our own energy system.
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And we can access the gifts of each site more consciously that the goddess has for
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us so that we bring the ancient wisdom of the temples into
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into ourselves and then take them with us so like what i like to say is this is a
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sacred women in power retreat we’re going to greece i think it’s september 27th or
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october 8th of this year 2025 but what i like to say about it is that you become a
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living temple of the goddess because then you are vibrating that that energy of the
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goddess out into wherever you go right and when i was in delphi last fall
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I spent a couple of weeks there just like tuning into the land and the energies and connecting.
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And it was so clear.
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She said, bring the women now, bring the women.
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And the first time, like next year, she’ll like, wait, bring the women 2025, bring the women.
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So basically the same time I was there last year, we’ll be in Delphi.
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But we’re going to Athens, Naphtali.
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I know you’re going on to do this mapping of the Artemis temples and you’ll be in Naphtali.
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Yeah.
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depending on which the English or the Greece version in May.
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And that’s a region where there’s these ancient Mycenaean civilizations from 1700 BC.
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I mean, well over, you know, four or 5,000 years ago.
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And some of these,
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ancient stone temples and it’s just so rich and full of history and then the
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acropolis in athens is just stunning and oh my god so magical lit up at night just
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being in that energy right it’s just amazing so yeah i’m really excited to take
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other women there to really experience that sounds wonderful just that sounds
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amazing and taking the time to channel those energies yeah that sounds wonderful
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absolutely
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yeah it’s time because they you know talking about why this this ancient wisdom
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matters and how we bring it into the current day collective it’s when we even
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though we don’t necessarily understand intellectually all of this when we bring
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that ancient wisdom up into the body and we put it in the collective field because
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our consciousness can’t be disconnected from the consciousness around us it’s
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impossible right
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It’s easy to be like, oh, that over there and that person and this thing happening.
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The reality is our consciousness cannot be separate from the consciousness of the world.
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It is all interconnected.
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But as we choose individually to elevate our consciousness,
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we then elevate the consciousness of the collective.
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And so when we go and we consciously lift this consciousness to these ancient temples,
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even as you’re doing in May on your studies and mapping,
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we’re lifting the consciousness into our feet,
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we’re bringing it into the awareness into the grid.
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And we’re saying,
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yes,
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we get to remember this,
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this gets to be part of our,
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our consciousness on this planet right now,
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and utilize it and embody it and
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It can shift our world in ways that I don’t even think that we could understand.
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Right.
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You know, bringing that feminine wisdom and that feminine power back.
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It’s really amazing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I’m so grateful for the work that you’re doing.